WWE MONDAY NIGHT... - 25/07/16 | Official Thread

[Devixe]

Ma chi è stato bannato

[Blazej]

Questa era chiaramente una Sweet Ban Music.

Purtroppo per il pubblico sei heel, ma per Vince mcGP sei il nuovo volto del forum

[KTW]

KTW, riassuntino?

Ormai faccio una fatica enorme a leggere troppo da uno schermo.

Foley ha raccontato come è stata vissuta nel backstage la vittoria titolata di Sasha Banks. Tutti credevano che il match non avrebbe portato al cambio di titolo, ma poi Foley ha notato un'espressione facciale particolare nella Banks e ha detto a Rollins, che era nello spogliatoio a prepararsi, che forse ci sarebbe potuto essere il cambio di titolo. Seth ha replicato che se avessero buttato fuori Dana allora Sasha avrebbe avuto possibilità di vittoria. Piano piano il locker room si è riempito di wrestler che tutti insieme tifavano la Banks (Rusev era completamente nudo e aveva solo un asciugamano addosso), e nel momento del Suicide Dive con brutto bump della ragazza calò lo sconforto nella stanza. Jericho urlava contro la TV di smettere di mandare i replay, Woods parlava alla TV incoraggiando la Banks mentre Foley si faceva mille pippe mentali sull'infortunio che la ragazza poteva aver subito. Finito il match si precipitarono tutti nella Gorilla Position, dove era presente un Triple H visivamente emozionato, e tutti hanno reso tributo e si sono congratulati con Sasha Banks per la grande vittoria e il grande match.

[Karran]

Foley ha raccontato come è stata vissuta nel backstage la vittoria titolata di Sasha Banks. Tutti credevano che il match non avrebbe portato al cambio di titolo, ma poi Foley ha notato un'espressione facciale particolare nella Banks e ha detto a Rollins, che era nello spogliatoio a prepararsi, che forse ci sarebbe potuto essere il cambio di titolo. Seth ha replicato che se avessero buttato fuori Dana allora Sasha avrebbe avuto possibilità di vittoria. Piano piano il locker room si è riempito di wrestler che tutti insieme tifavano la Banks (Rusev era completamente nudo e aveva solo un asciugamano addosso), e nel momento del Suicide Dive con brutto bump della ragazza calò lo sconforto nella stanza. Jericho urlava contro la TV di smettere di mandare i replay, Woods parlava alla TV incoraggiando la Banks mentre Foley si faceva mille pippe mentali sull'infortunio che la ragazza poteva aver subito. Finito il match si precipitarono tutti nella Gorilla Position, dove era presente un Triple H visivamente emozionato, e tutti hanno reso tributo e si sono congratulati con Sasha Banks per la grande vittoria e il grande match.

Poi mi criticano quando dico che ho un'innamoramento adolescenziale per Sasha.

Grazie per il riassunto.

[AFM2000]

Che ha detto il mentecatto?

“After tonight’s RAW aired, I came to the sad conclusion that the professional wrestling business as we knew it is dead. Gone forever are the days of unique characters, compelling story lines and fights that actually looked real, and here to stay are the days of a middle-weight (at best) beating not one, but two heavyweights in the same night, in matches that told no stories and looked more like Swan Lake than fights.

“When Finn Balor was booked to defeat the likes of Rusev and Roman Reigns in the same night — on his first night — this was the nail in the coffin for me. I never believed that I would ever see a powerhouse like the WWE cater to the smallest audience, with the loudest voice — the IWC. Tonight . . . they won the war. It is over and done with. The “casuals” can now officially give up any and all hope.

“In a night that was written to shame and embarrass Roman Reigns for failing a drug test, Stephanie kicked off the festivities by calling him a ‘loser’ at the top of the show, claiming that he cost RAW the WWE Championship the night before. So what does Stephanie do to the said ‘loser’? Why, she books him in a fatal four-way match, in turn giving the said ‘loser’ yet another opportunity to gain a shot at the WWE Title. Makes sense, right?

“The best part of Finn Balor is his ‘Special’ entrance that comes only at the ‘Big Shows.’ I guess his DEBUT on RAW wasn’t a ‘Big Enough Show’ and didn’t warrant his ‘Special’ entrance, so he came out looking like just a regular guy to the casual fans that had never seen him before.”

“Balor beat Reigns in an unbelievable match that would have never happened if the fight were a shoot. Reigns would be flossing his teeth with Balor. But, we had to cater to the IWC, while making Reigns pay his penance.

Parti del suo podcast.

[Heart Break Kid]

Russo e Flair

[AFM2000]

Si mi ero dimenticato ovviamente della frase finale su Balor/Rollins, che sembra poco entusiasmargli

[Blazej]

“After tonight’s RAW aired, I came to the sad conclusion that the professional wrestling business as we knew it is dead. Gone forever are the days of unique characters, compelling story lines and fights that actually looked real, and here to stay are the days of a middle-weight (at best) beating not one, but two heavyweights in the same night, in matches that told no stories and looked more like Swan Lake than fights.

“When Finn Balor was booked to defeat the likes of Rusev and Roman Reigns in the same night — on his first night — this was the nail in the coffin for me. I never believed that I would ever see a powerhouse like the WWE cater to the smallest audience, with the loudest voice — the IWC. Tonight . . . they won the war. It is over and done with. The “casuals” can now officially give up any and all hope.

“In a night that was written to shame and embarrass Roman Reigns for failing a drug test, Stephanie kicked off the festivities by calling him a ‘loser’ at the top of the show, claiming that he cost RAW the WWE Championship the night before. So what does Stephanie do to the said ‘loser’? Why, she books him in a fatal four-way match, in turn giving the said ‘loser’ yet another opportunity to gain a shot at the WWE Title. Makes sense, right?

“The best part of Finn Balor is his ‘Special’ entrance that comes only at the ‘Big Shows.’ I guess his DEBUT on RAW wasn’t a ‘Big Enough Show’ and didn’t warrant his ‘Special’ entrance, so he came out looking like just a regular guy to the casual fans that had never seen him before.”

“Balor beat Reigns in an unbelievable match that would have never happened if the fight were a shoot. Reigns would be flossing his teeth with Balor. But, we had to cater to the IWC, while making Reigns pay his penance.

Parti del suo podcast.

[Yggdrasill]

Purtroppo per il pubblico sei heel, ma per Vince mcGP sei il nuovo volto del forum

Per me Rob è tweener, per la giustizia no matter what!

[Impreza]

Nessuno ha apprezzato il mio ban, di gran lunga il migliore della storia e li ho visti tutti.

Sono offeso.

Nulla a confronto con il ban di Sallent e il primo ban a Lesnarmania. E poi, Colosso che si autoesilia vale almeno come 100 ban

[Tsunami]

Ringraziate che non ci è scappato Colosso.

Abbiamo provveduto ad aumentare la tensione della recinzione.

[Last Ride]

Io avevo capito che era stato bannato Jacob
E m'era pure dispiaciuto.

Ma perché

[Last Ride]

Il tuo trolling è fuori di ogni dubbio visto che entri in ogni topic solo per rompere le scatole al prossimo e per "dimostrare una parvenza di conoscenza". Metto tra virgolette perché finora non hai dimostrato proprio niente, se non che sei perfettamente in grado di sparare frecciatine ridicole. Io quantomeno con le persone che fanno anche solo finta di ragionare cerco di discuterci. Motivo per il quale non dovrei discutere con te e perché mi sono rifiutato di discutere con l'altro genio che ci delizia della sua presenza da ieri.

Invece con te voglio discutere giusto per dimostrare come tu non capisca una beneamata minchia. "Un personaggio che dalla folla ha ottenuto più attenzione del previsto per diversi motivi" non è di certo Ziggler. La WWE non costruisce una beneamata minchia, vedasi la stessa vittoria di Ziggler a SmackDown di martedì. Eppure per Survivor Series Ziggler era stato costruito, molto più di Ryback contrariamente a quanto pensano quelli che analizzano le cose solo superficialmente e che pensano che il fulcro fosse Ryback. Il fulcro non era Ryback. Il fulcro era Ziggler perché era esattamente quello che gli serviva per quel Survivor Series match. Ci voleva qualcuno che andasse oltre ogni aspettativa, che riuscisse quasi a sgominare l'intera squadra avversaria da solo salvo poi essere ostacolato dalle ennesime scorrettezze e infine salvato da Sting. È esattamente quello che ha fatto Ziggler, cui nella costruzione di Survivor Series sono state dedicate praticamente intere puntate di Raw e SmackDown. E nella Road to Survivor Series si è esplorato:

• Il personaggio di Ziggler;
• Il fatto che fosse sempre stato un underachiever e perché;
• Il suo rapporto con Cena;
• Il suo rapporto con gli altri membri del team;
• Il suo rapporto con l'Authority.

Ziggler è "un personaggio che ha momenti buoni ma che poi viene rispedito sul fondo"? Sì lo è, ma non per demeriti suoi. Lo è perché la WWE non gli ha mai costruito qualcosa dietro con costanza; lo è perché un wrestler che era stato costruito (bene) per Survivor Series affinché riuscisse a battere (l'imbattuto) Rusev, Kane, Luke Harper e Seth Rollins è stato poi lasciato vagare come un coglione immediatamente dopo, eliminato come un coglione alla Royal Rumble e messo nel match macedonia a Wrestlemania senza alcuna prospettiva; lo è perché, parlando di Wrestlemania, Dolph Ziggler ha partecipato a 8 edizioni di Wrestlemania e MAI in un Single match; lo è perché due anni fa volendo avrebbero potuto creare un main eventer, esattamente come poi dopo hanno creato prima Seth Rollins, poi Roman Reigns (tra mille polemiche), AJ Styles e Dean Ambrose (forse ancora non del tutto, ma tant'è), semplicemente applicandosi un po' su di lui. Dandogli un match a Wrestlemania con Daniel Bryan, per esempio, che tanto non aveva di meglio da fare che non essere inserito anche lui nell'inutilissimo match macedonia.

Quindi evita di propinarmi le tue frasi fatte e stupide, non sei mai stato in grado di una valutazione decente. Né delle persone né tantomeno dei wrestler.

Peccato che tutto evidenzi appunto di come sia un personaggio da "usa e getta" nelle zone alte. E no, Ziggler non avrà mai quello che sta ottenendo non per demeriti della WWE ma per demeriti suoi. E con demeriti suoi intendo che non ha quelle caratteristiche che possono dargli una chance continua. E in Survivor Series Ziggler non era il personaggio costruito ma uno dei motivi per Cui è andato contro l'authroity. Ziggler è stato "solo" (virgolettato perché ad averne queste chance per Wrestler un attimo più interessante di lui) un ponte di accordo tra il feud Cena/Trips/sTephs e il debutto di Sting. Il fatto che sia stato inserito lui perché era funzionale che servisse la situazione di situazione critica e basta. E no, I Rollins,perfino i Reigns sono diventati quelli che sono perché hanno avuto quel Quid in più per restare in determinate posizioni. Ziggler lo hanno lanciato diverse volte. Basta pensare dal feud con Edge fino all'incasso ed Turn face di Ziggler ma per vari motivi non è riuscito e NON riuscirà mai a farlo. Oltre il fatto che sia una gran bella testa di cazzo. Se tu pensi davvero Che Ziggler,solo per le series 2014 dove è stato usato come oggetto per creare diverse situazioni fondamentali.



Io non propongo ne frasi ne altro. Non sono mai stato in grado di una valutazione decente ma te non hai proprio il senso del rispetto ne di chi scrivi e neanche del prodotto stesso che guardi perchè continui nella tua inutile visione. Io non giudico nessuno e ne tantomeno mi faccio giudicare da te. Cerca di capire prima un qualcosa tu prima di dare del capra agli altri,Fesso.

[Last Ride]

Che ha detto il mentecatto?

che è tipo l'uomo che devi la tua passione per il Wrestling moderno,ma va bene. Mentecatto.

[Joy Black]

A BANKS STATEMENT: A BACKSTAGE LOOK AT THE NIGHT OF THE BOSS
In the aftermath of WWE title changes, I have seen balloons dropped by the hundreds, confetti raining down from high above, great displays of pyrotechnics and entire rosters rushing the ring to share in the moment of glory. I was personally given a ride atop the shoulders of DX, after my first WWE title win, in addition to having Mr. McMahon and his evil cronies ringside to witness the moment, adding to the grandeur of the occasion. Sasha Banks WWE Women's Championship victory on this past WWE Raw - a thrilling contest with Charlotte - featured none of the of the obvious pomp and circumstance of so many historic title changes, but backstage, was one of the most emotional experiences I have ever witnessed - in wrestling, in sports, or in life. Please allow me to take you on a backstage tour in the moments leading up to, and following the victory, and see it all through my eyes.
For all intents and purposes, my duties as WWE Raw General Manager were completed following my promo with Stephanie McMahon - WWE and the entire roster of ‪#‎MondayNightRaw‬ that kicked off the fist episode of this ‪#‎NewEra‬ of Raw. Unlike my first Monday on the job, where I scurried from in-ring introduction, to a series of backstage interviews, and finally, a seat with Stephanie at ringside to scout the evening's main event, I was free to hang out and watch the matches at my leisure, having no idea that a moment of great magnitude was heading our way.
Some fans love the spoilers - hints or rumors about what might happen during the course of a show. Personally, I like to be surprised. One evening earlier, at ‪#‎Battleground‬ I HOPED I would see Bayley as Sasha's mystery partner, but I didn't KNOW, until her music hit, the crowd went wild, and I rushed out into the live crowd as fast as my knees, hips and back would allow me to. I love being out there in the actual arena (or stadium) when great moments take place; there's nothing like the actual roar of the crowd, and being IN the moment, to take me back to the days when I would hitch-hike or take trains and buses to The Garden in search of that special brand of magic that only wrestling can provide.
On this night, I found myself in the male talent dressing room when the Banks/Charlotte match began, watching a small monitor on a table, with only a couple of my coworkers looking on. It's funny, because there are some nights when I throw my bag in the TV locker room, other times when I ask the writers if I can just put my stuff in their room, and plenty of nights where I have no bag at all; I just walk in and out with the clothes on my back…and maybe my ghastly fanny-pack. I wouldn't be surprised at all if, as the new Raw GM, if I get my own office in the near future. But, earlier in the day, I had placed my bag in the male talent room, so that's where I watched the matches - meaning that my Raw viewing experience up until the Banks/Charlotte match began, had been shared by one or two wrestlers at a time - talking with Mark Henry for a little while, Enzo Amore for a few, and AJ Styles (who had been summoned back to Raw for the non-televised main event that would conclude the evening) for a few more. The rest of the talent was in and out – hustling off for backstage interviews, matches, catering, or any number of places that talent heads off for to get a break from the scent of B.O. and Ben Gay.
Then I saw...something on the screen made me turn in my chair, looking for someone... anyone to share an observation with. I saw Seth Rollins putting on his boots.
"Seth", I said, "do you think the title might change hands tonight?"
"I don't know", he said. "Why do you ask?"
I thought about it, realizing I had no real evidence to go on - just a gut feeling, and said "Just a facial expression. Something about the expression on Sasha's face looks....different."
Rollins takes a look, notes that there seemed to be something different about Charlotte's demeanor as well, and says, "If Brooke gets tossed, (if Charlotte's assistant, Dana Brooke, gets thrown out of the match) I'd say it's possible."
Moments later, Brooke gets caught grabbing Sasha's foot, and referee Mike Chioda emphatically issues a warning. Rollins and I both yell out loud, and a little buzz starts in the dressing room. In what I can only compare to the "Come Out, Come Out, Wherever You Are" scene from "The Wizard of Oz", where munchkins appear from every conceivable hiding spot following the death the Wicked Witch of the West - the little guys were cracking out of eggs, peeking out of bushes, emerging from within flowers - WWE Superstars begin to emerge and gather around the monitor. Chris Jericho wanders in. Sin Cara takes a seat to my left. All three New Day members bring their positivity to the proceedings. Rusev rushes in from the shower, a towel wrapped around his waist. The action heats up, speculation runs wild, and the announce team brings viewers on the USA network into a commercial break - even as the in-ring action continues on the dressing room monitor. I give serious thought to departing the dressing room, and heading out into the audience to take in that unique atmosphere. But then I think about the atmosphere in this dressing room - unique unto itself, and realize there is no place I would rather be if history shines its light on this episode of Raw, than right here with the boys, the B.O. and the Ben Gay.
Raw returns live, and grown men who do this wrestling stuff for a living start actively rooting for this historic victory. Charlotte is as good as I've ever seen her - looking nothing less that ferocious in her moves and attitude. She hits a moonsault from the top rope to the floor that is awe-inspiring in its beauty. She shoves Sasha with a boot and the Boss takes a hard bump into the ringside barricade, giving Charlotte time to grab her women's championship and taunt The Boss. But Sasha kicks Charlotte away, the belt drops to the floor, and paying tribute to her idol - the great Eddie Guerrero - Sasha flips the belt to Dana Brooke, and then feigns injury. Referee Chioda turns to see the fallen Banks with the unwitting Brooke holding the belt, and in quick and dramatic fashion, ejects Brooke from ringside. The live crowd erupts and so does the dressing room! To quote Seth Rollins, Dana Brooke has been "tossed". The title change doesn't seem merely possible; it seems inevitable. The title is going to change hands. It HAS to change hands! We can feel it!
And then Sasha hits the ropes and takes flight, diving through the ropes...and a collective gasp of horror fills the dressing room as Sasha lands in truly disturbing fashion - her upper torso hitting the concrete with such force that her body folds up like an accordion, leaving her motionless on the floor. Suddenly the possibility of a title-change and even the match itself no longer seems important. As she lies there, the landing is shown in slow-motion three times – each one accompanied by another horrific gasp from the dressing room. Some of us shield our eyes. Chris Jericho, yells out before the final replay, "please don't show it again!" I run through several outcomes in my head for the possible fallout from such an impact - and none of them are good: a serious neck or back injury, a fracture or bruise of the sternum, a dislocation, separation or fracture of the shoulder or collarbone. In none of my scenarios do I foresee this match continuing. It's a diverse group in that dressing room - white, black, hispanic, Bulgarian - all of us hoping, wishing and praying that the woman lying motionless on our TV screen will somehow be alright. Xavier Woods begins talking softly to the TV screen : "come on Sasha, get up...get up Sasha." and is joined by others talking to the screen - imploring Sasha to start moving, or asking God to lend a hand. It's a group of tough men huddled in front of the TV monitor - former WWE champions, world class power-lifters, an Olympian - but none tougher than the little lady with the big dreams, who summons the will to move, to rise, to somehow carry on. But Sasha doesn't just continue; she excels - hitting her moves with precision and grace. Both women are at the top of their game, but fate is on Sasha's side on this particular night. She hits the back-stabber, and then the Banks statement and moments later, she is the new WWE Women's Champion. A wave of pure joy sweeps over the room. We have been through quite a journey together in the last few minutes - an emotional roller-coaster, where excitement and anticipation were replaced by fear, then relief, and finally euphoria. "Let's go!", I hear Big E say, and with that, all three members of New Day are running for the curtain that leads to the fabled "Gorilla position" - the spot where WWE Superstars make their entrances and exits - named in honor of WWE Hall of Famer Gorilla Monsoon. I follow suit - just not quite as speedily - and by the time I reach Gorilla, a line has already formed, eager to greet and congratulate the Boss.
I occasionally make it a point to wait right outside of the Gorilla position to congratulate a WWE Superstar after a title win or an incredible match. I stood outside the curtain following Shane McMahon's match with Undertaker at ‪#‎WrestleMania‬ - because I specifically wanted to be one of the first people Shane McMahon saw when he walked through that curtain. On random occasions, I've been met with applause after walking through the curtain from Gorilla. But in all my years, I don't think I've ever seen a crowd this large lining up outside the curtain to specifically congratulate one person. I have certainly never seen so many tears. While some superstars are beaming, the majority of those waiting for their moment with the Boss are either openly crying, or struggling with varying degrees of success to fight that urge to let loose the tears. Then, breaking protocol, her colleagues bypass the curtain and actually file into the fabled Gorilla position. I can't claim that it's never happened before; just that I've personally never seen it, or heard of it. None of us feel like we are breaking any rules; we all just want to be part of this special moment in time.
Sasha walks through that curtain, holding on to the championship title, amazingly showing no sign of injury - although she will admit the next day that her back is pretty sore - and this impromptu backstage entourage breaks into applause. Triple H is the first to greet her - a man whose vision of what ‪#‎WomensWrestling‬ could be in WWE has been so instrumental in her life. He looks into the Boss's eyes and speaks ever so gently to her. It's a moment of great tenderness, and I snap a photo to capture that moment - a photo that reveals a tear rolling down the cheek of The Game. I wait my turn as those who have known her longer, have seen her struggle up close, have helped build a new generation of women's wrestling, embrace her and thank her. I look over at Stephanie McMahon, standing off to the side letting all who have been along with Sasha on this bumpy, uphill, but ultimately incredible ride to the top, have their moment with the Boss. Her arms are folded, she has the warmest smile on her face, and her eyes are welled up with tears. When I finally get my moment with the Boss, I simply say, "no one has ever worked harder, and no one has ever deserved it more." And then I too lose in my battle of the tears.
There were no balloons, confetti, displays of brilliant pyrotechnics or in-ring celebrations to commemorate this title victory. But looking around this room, at the smiles, the hugs, the tears, I realize that I have never seen so many people so genuinely happy at another person's success. And I know that I will never forget this night - when the little girl who never stopped dreaming, who refused to take no for an answer, who made the words "be so good they can't ignore you" her mantra in life, became the NEW WWE Women's Champion.

Lettura lunghetta ma interessante.

Letta e condivisa su FB poco fa. Un racconto molto bello, oltre che interessante per capire come nel backstage vengono vissuti certi momenti, come la vittoria titolata dopo una lunga ricorsa o bump pericolosissimi (se noi proviamo empatia per certe botte che prendono, figuriamoci i wrestler stessi che certi situazioni si trovano a viverle).

Poi mi criticano quando dico che ho un'innamoramento adolescenziale per Sasha.

Grazie per il riassunto.

Quoto!

Sasha credo che fin da nxt ha convinto tutti, nel backstage è molto ben voluta, HHH punta molto su di lei, Styles ha parlato spesso di lei nell'interviste come una delle persone con cui parla di più nel backstage, in cerca di consigli e sempre piena di domande. Io non nascondo il mio markismo nei suoi confronti (e di Bayley): poche volte ho provato un trasporto emotivo così forte verso il percorso di un personaggio. Sinceramente non mi sorprenderei di vederla in un main event di un ppv monobrand entro un anno solare.