Jon Moxley is back

[Arimotto]

Sto ascoltando e ormai mi mancano una ventina di minuti, alla fine son cose che "si sapevano"(vince ormai fuori di testa, burocrazia italiana per fare ogni cosa, ecc) , ma sentirle con i vari dettagli è sempre interessante (e triste).

Francamente però non pensavo che le cose fossero così buie, cioè ambrose era comunque uno degli uomini di punta(ovviamente non reigns), sentire che si doveva ingoiare tutta quella m*rda un pochino mi ha sorpreso.


Dopo sto podcast renee young non sarà la persona più serena del mondo però ahah.

[Joy Black]

Bello sentirlo felice alla fine e bello motivato. Consigliatissimo l'ascolto

[Darth_Dario]

Sì ma ora voglio sapere la cosa orribile che avrebbe dovuto dire su Reigns. Garbini gliel'avevi scritta te?

[The master of ROH]

Sì ma ora voglio sapere la cosa orribile che avrebbe dovuto dire su Reigns. Garbini gliel'avevi scritta te?

Contando che ha detto robe come "now you have to answer to the man upstairs", di peggio ci sono solo robe tipo "se non ti uccide il cancro ci penserò io" o cose così

[Latino Alex]

Cioè considerate che queste sono le parole di uno che comunque di riffa o di raffa qualcosa ha ottenuto.

Pensate quale può essere il parere di un Sami Zayn, Samoa Joe o Luke Harper.

[Joy Black]

[Captain Phenomenal1]

Comunque il podcast è davvero qualcosa di agghianciante per quello che ne esce fuori e come è stato detto parliamo di uno che aveva e ha sempre avuto uno status medio-alto.

- perdita totale di passione per la disciplina
- totale bocciatura di ogni tua idea
- costretto a recitare promo ed angle orribili e soprattutto in character che non ti rappresenta per nulla
- chiuso in un ciclo continuo di : match, fisico distrutto, zero spinta a presentarsi a lavoro
- ansia, depressione per la tua situazione

[john1094]

Cioè considerate che queste sono le parole di uno che comunque di riffa o di raffa qualcosa ha ottenuto.

Pensate quale può essere il parere di un Sami Zayn, Samoa Joe o Luke Harper.

Beh Punk era messo pure molto meglio e più o meno disse le stesse cose...

[Joy Black]

Qui il riassunto dell'observer per chi non ha il tempo di ascoltare.

In his first interview since leaving WWE, the former Dean Ambrose opened up about the frustrations he had with the company's creative process.

Moxley appeared on today's episode of Talk is Jericho and discussed his decision to depart WWE when his contract expired in April. Here are some notes from the podcast:

- Moxley said he's never been happier and is in the absolute apex of life. He said it feels like the weight of the world has been lifted off of his shoulders. He has nothing but gratitude for WWE. He grew up there and WWE changed his life.

He got to live his dream and do so many amazing things in the ring. Moxley said getting the opportunity to be part of the Make-A-Wish program was a blessing. He also met his wife in the company.

- July 2018 (which was during the time he was out injured after tearing his triceps) was when Moxley pretty much knew that he was going to leave WWE.

- Moxley mentioned a time when he was a major babyface on SmackDown and was given a backstage promo by a writer. It was Moxley describing the things he did on his way to the arena that day, but they weren't things that a cool or relatable person would do. Moxley said they weren't things someone you would root for would do, they were things an idiot would do.

Moxley wanted the promo changed, but Vince McMahon re-did it and put all of that stuff back in. When he went to talk to Vince about it, Moxley said Vince told him that it was "such good sh*t" and was what makes people like Moxley and connect with him. Moxley said he's had a million conversations with Vince that were exactly like this.

- Moxley then told two stories. The first was the day he physically looked at the calendar and started counting down the days he had left in WWE. The second was the day he absolutely knew he was gone and almost walked out.

The first story was a Raw in Los Angeles where the thread throughout the show was Seth Rollins challenging Moxley to come out to the ring to fight him. Moxley had several promos on the show that he didn't think made sense or told a tangible story. One promo was insulting the audience in Los Angeles and calling them smelly and disgusting.

Another promo included a line about Roman Reigns' leukemia that Moxley called distasteful. Moxley said Vince explained it in an innocuous way and gave him the "Vince Jedi mind trick." Moxley noted that it was his fault for being convinced, but as soon as the line left his mouth he couldn't believe he said it.

Moxley described the day of the show in Los Angeles. He called it exhausting, noting that he didn't think they accomplished anything. He thought they killed his angle with Rollins if it wasn't dead already.

- The day Moxley knew for sure he was leaving was a Raw in Milwaukee where he took part in a segment where a doctor gave him shots to inoculate him from the fans. Moxley questioned why he was always doing this "goofy crap."

Vince talked to Moxley about the segment and wanted to make sure he knew it wasn't comedy. Vince said it was such good stuff, so well written, and was going to get Moxley a ton of heat. Moxley said he had the feeling it was the last time he was going to tell Vince that -- if this is what he wants on his show -- Moxley is the best man for the job and would give his best effort to make it good.

Moxley said there was another line about Reigns' leukemia in this segment. Vince tried to talk him into saying it a little bit, but Moxley refused to do so. Vince said that was fine if Moxley was uncomfortable with it. Moxley called it "the worst line" and wouldn't say it on the podcast because of how bad it was. Moxley called it the type of thing where someone would've had to have been fired and WWE could've lost sponsors if it made air.

- Moxley said it's like WWE takes wrestling away from you. He called wrestling his first love, and now it feels like he has it back. Promos were his favorite part of wrestling, but they ended up becoming his least favorite part.

- When Moxley thought of ideas for his return after injury, he was excited to come back to wrestling but wasn't excited to come back to WWE. He pictured himself in CZW or Japan -- anywhere but WWE.

- Whether AEW existed or not, Moxley was still going to leave WWE. He said he still would have left if there were no other promotions or wrestlers in the world. He would have started his own school and trained his own opponents if he had to.

- WWE kept saying a new contract was coming, and Moxley was relishing the opportunity to tell them he wasn't interested. When the contract offer did come, Moxley didn't look at it.

- Moxley didn't think WWE would keep him on TV after he told them he was leaving when his contract was up. When he met with Vince about leaving, Vince said he wished Moxley would have told him about the problems he had with creative. Moxley said he tried to be as nice as possible and show his gratitude but also got everything off of his chest.

- Moxley didn't have a problem taking a bump for Nia Jax, but he thought it was WWE trying to bury him on the way out.

- Moxley wants to prove that WWE's creative sucks, doesn't work, and is absolutely terrible. He hopes a byproduct of AEW will be that WWE re-evaluates their creative process.

- In AEW, Moxley's goal is to finally be the best version of himself that he can be. He wants to have the creative freedom to come up with an idea and just do it.

- Moxley worked with retired wrestler "Sick" Nick Mondo, who is now a filmmaker, on the hype video that he released when his contract was up.

Manca la questione dei 500 dollari

[Shinobi]

Sempre sulla questione Reigns, qui è spiegato in breve ma in modo chiaro e fa intendere anche come si è sentito a dire una cosa simile.

Moxley took issue with a line in one of his promos about Roman Reigns' real-life leukemia diagnosis in which he said that Reigns had to "answer to the man upstairs." Moxley said McMahon explained why the line was needed, and he proceeded to use it in his promo.

Ultimately, it didn't sit well with Moxley, who called it distasteful: "I cut the promo, and as soon as that line left my mouth, I went, 'Oh my God, I can't believe I just said that.'"

[The Ripper]

Questo spiega esattamente perché la WWE attuale fa schifo. Non che non si sapesse prima ma adesso é palese. Campano ancora perché non hanno competizione, anche se i ratings a dispetto di altre entrate ecc stanno colando a picco.

Questo dimostra perché i vari Nakamura, Owens, Zayn e compagnia bella stiano fallendo tutti nel main roster. Chissà come Styles sia riuscito a stare a galla nonostante sia evidente non vogliono che oscuri nessuno dei loro (regno lungo ma sempre tenuto anonimo e MOTY messi li in mezzo alle cards per non risaltare).

Bisogna che tutto lo zoccolo duro abbandoni Vince e soci, spero in un successo per la nuova AEW.

[Tsunami]

Sempre Mox:

When discussing his jump to AEW, he said one of his goals with the company was to prove that WWE’s creative process ‘sucks.’

He said: “Dude, it’s very exciting. Like, to be able to be a difference-maker, is such a…I didn’t have that in..I can’t remember. One thing that I want to do: if I have something to prove, it’s that I want to prove that your creative process, the WWE’s creative process, sucks. It does not work. It’s absolutely terrible. I’ve said that to Vince. I’ve said that to Hunter. I’ve said that to Michael Hayes. I can’t even tell you how their system works. It’s some kind of system of meetings that take place in Stamford and there’s a home team and there’s writers and producers and production meetings and nobody knows what’s approved and what’s not and the bureaucratic red tape you have to go through to get anything approved is just…it’s crazy. It doesn’t work. It’s killing the company, I think. I think Vince is the problem. Not so much Vince, but Vince and whatever the structure that he built around himself probably starting in I’d imagine like 2002, after the sale of WCW, and he started building this infrastructure around himself, this team of writers and whatever and producers and however he does it and this is how the WWE is and how the product is and the product sucks. Great talent, amazing talent. None of this is their fault.

So I’m hoping… if I had a goal with AEW, it’s that we could prove that Vince’s way sucks. I mean this is not what I’m gonna focus on because it’s not about competing with WWE. I don’t think that’s any of our mission. We’re just gonna be over here doing our best, putting on our best product and if a byproduct of that is that it pushes WWE to reevaluate their creative process and it makes Vince…not that he’s gonna step aside, we all know he’s gonna die in the chair…but maybe he’ll listen to somebody else’s ideas. Maybe he’ll be open to doing a different way.”

[Jeff Hardy 18]

Sì ma ora voglio sapere la cosa orribile che avrebbe dovuto dire su Reigns. Garbini gliel'avevi scritta te?

Per me era una barzelletta tipo.

Roman Reigns sul ring: "Scusa Dean, ma perchè festeggaimo il natale a Luglio?"

[Tsunami]

[PaulSacz]

Per me era una barzelletta tipo.

Roman Reigns sul ring: "Scusa Dean, ma perchè festeggaimo il natale a Luglio?"

Ho riso.