Ashley Massaro passes away

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Survive If I Let You ha scritto: 22/05/2019, 9:37 Poche ore dopo la morte la WWE ha reso noto che la Massaro aveva chiesto scusa con una mail alla WWE.
dalla newsboard
La WWE pubblica degli estratti, in cui si capisce che la Massaro vuole far intendere che è stato l’avvocato a spingerla a fare certe dichiarazioni.
E uno dice: chi vi ha chiesto niente?
Poi salta fuori questa storia, perché salti fuori solo ora non lo so, tra l’altro nelle varie notizie della sua morte tutti parlavano vagamente della causa(quella intentata da vari ex della WWE sulle commozioni cerebrali), ma nessuno riportava queste dichiarazioni.


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La causa è stata rigettata (non so i termini legali spero sia quello giusto) e quindi anche questa parte, credo.
Sono sicuro che il TG5 e gli altri giornalisti italiani stanno già indagando sulla questione :sarcasmo:
Ashley ha donato il cervello alla ricerca per i traumi da commozione cerebrale, che pare sia molto comunemente associata ai suicidi.
Spero si faccia chiarezza sulla questione.

Quoto perché come un cojone ho fatto cambiare la pagina.

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La storiaccia del tour era già uscita nel 2016 (io non lo sapevo, ma googlando escono articoli a riguardo). Onestamente non so come sia potuta passare così in sordina fino ad ora, per la WWE dovrebbe essere molto peggjo che accettare soldi dagli arabi

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Perchè sono coinvolti dei militari. Negli US, anche con il #metoo difficile tu mi vada a toccare gli eroi del post-11/9. Probabile che finirà in un nulla.

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Oltretutto mi pare che i militari possono essere giudicati solo da un tribunale militare e solo in seguito perseguiti a livello civile.

Ed ogni "operazione" militare, segue regole generali e particolari, quindi è un vespaio assoluto.

Se ancora oggi roba del Vietnam, del primo Iraq e Serbia sono sepolte, puoi capire che possibilità ha questo episodio.

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Hart aveva un blog dove ha raccontato dell'esperienza, sul sito della WWE (sotto spoiler, evidenziato la parte che conferma una parte di quello che ha raccontato Massaro)
fonte: https://www.wwe.com/inside/news/archive ... omthehart4
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Straight From the Hart IV

Hey, WWE fans. We had an early 7 a.m. call for the lobby. I was up at 5 a.m. and in the lobby at 6 to have breakfast. As usual, I am trying to be the first one in the restaurant. There are about 30 Kuwaiti women wearing burquas, all with their faces covered, milling around the lobby. As soon as I open the door to let three of them in, all of them rush past me, putting me at the back of the line for breakfast.

The breakfast is served as a buffet. I proceed to get my toast done first before I get my daily breakfast special. I put my bread into the toaster, and walk across the room to get the butter. When I return, I get back just in time to see one of the woman taking my toast away. Now, the way the customs are over here, if you look at a woman for more than a few seconds, you’re engaged. I figure that with this woman stealing my toast, she must be making wedding plans. Not with me, brother. I think I see her giggling at me, so I get my breakfast down fast and high tail it back to the lobby to meet up with everyone for our first base visit of the day.

In the van, Ron confides that he did not sleep a wink last night. He blames it on the breakfast special. He said, “That’s the last time I eat breakfast with you, Jimmy Hart!”

The temperature at 7:15 in the morning is 115 degrees Fahrenheit. We know it is going to be scorcher.

The first base we visit is Ali Al Salem Air Base, run by the U.S. Air Force 386 Air Expedition Wing. Ali Al Salem’s primary mission is to air lift troops in and out of Iraq using C-130’s. We meet with Vice Commander Colonel Charles Hyde. We soon learn that the Colonel lives a block away from Ron in Marietta, Ga., and that they both share a love of pulled pork and football.

From there, Master Sergeant Manny Perez and his team escort us to our first autograph and photo session at the Flex, which used to be a camp gym, but is now used as a recreational facility. Maria and Ashley look fabulous. Ron has worked out in the gym and looks great. Henry and Gary are another story. The crowd of servicemen and women are very gracious and receptive. Gary has arranged to have a base videographer (Airman First Class Jose Rodriguez) and a photographer (Staff Sergeant Jonathan Pomeroy) on hand to capture the action for possible use by our WWE TV production people. After a 90-minute session, we leave for an impromptu visit to the camp fire department. We meet with the Fire Dogs in Fire Hall No. 2, where we sign autographs and take photos. Ashley, noticing a dart board on the wall, picks up a dart and promptly hits bullseye, much to the crowd’s delight. She is so excited, she knocks her Gatorade on the floor, again getting a rousing cheer from the crowd. She has no shortage of Fire Dogs to clean it up. Later, she puts on fire gear and cuts a promo with the Fire Dogs for possible use on SmackDown.

By this time, the temperature outside is rising to130 degrees. Our next stop is the camp flight line, where we sign autographs and take photos with the C-130 Air Maintenance Crew in a bunker that still shows signs of being bombed during the first Gulf War. Maria, not to be outdone by Ashley, accepts the challenge to “Ride the Toolbox,” which requires her to sit on a metal tool box in her dress in the back of a pick-up truck and drive around the hangers with some of the crew. She then has the crew cut a promo for possible use on RAW.

We are all starting to feel the effects of the heat. In order to deal with the hot climate, we are told to keep drinking water constantly. Even then, sometimes the heat can overcome you. At the next autograph session, Ashley begins to swoon. Our base escorts demand she be taken to the Medical Center, despite her protests to the contrary. While doctors check her out, we proceed to our next destination, Camp LSA’s Mess Hall, where we meet the base commander, Lieutenant Colonel Tim Eichhorn, for lunch. Camp LSA is right next to Ali Al Salem and is the last stop before military personnel leave the country for well deserved R&R or return home to the U.S.A. There can be up to 2,000 troops a day at Camp LSA getting prepped for their return home.

After lunch, we visit Navy Customs, where some of the troops are in lockdown awaiting their flights home. It is great to see the smiles on their faces as their final activity in camp is getting to meet some of the Legends and Divas. Gary then retrieves Ashley from the Medical Center. While still weak, she insists on participating in our last photo session on base.


We have a rowdy crowd in the MWR tent when we arrive. Much to his delight, I let the Colonel use the megaphone to address the troops and provide us with Certificates of Appreciation before we start our session. He relates to me that whenever he used to see me on TV, he always dreamed of using the megaphone. And now, in a far off land, his dream has come true.

It is humorous, but also touching, to see a number of the married men on base request that Ron and I be part of any photos with Maria and Ashley, out of deference to their wives at home. Maria looks at me and whispers, “You know, Jimmy, that’s so wonderful how loyal these men are to their wives.” It is also interesting to hear the women’s side of the story. Two of our escorts, Major Rosemary Alvarez and Second Lieutenant Lisa Charles, are both military wives serving in Kuwait. They said they missed their husbands, but having Ron around was helping to ease the pain.

A photographer for the New York Daily News is at the session, snapping photos of some of the New York guys with the Divas, so you Daily News readers, check it out.

We are beat by the end of the session. The temperature is still rising, and despite having a great time, we are ready to take a break. After goodbyes to our new friends and escorts, Dallas Webb, Kevin Connor and J.B. Barnes, we are off. We get Ashley back to her room, and Maria and Henry make plans for dinner. Gary, Ron and I, along with Ryan, Richard, and Chris, go to eat at a local shopping mall. Of course you know me, when I see a Johnny Rockets I have to get some French fries. Gary and the gang want to eat at an Indian restaurant, and they talk the manager into letting me bring my Johnny Rockets To Go over to eat with them. While I am waiting for my food, all of the Johnny Rockets staff recognizes me and come over to say hello. Most of them are young men from Manila, and are big fans. It shows how global WWE has become.

As we walk over to the Indian restaurant with my bag of food, Gary and I try to remember how many replica WWE championship belts our team signed at our autograph sessions. It’s really amazing that these kids can bring anything they want with them when they are over here, and they choose to bring WWE Championship belts.

We’ve got another base to visit tomorrow before our stay in Kuwait is over. While we are all looking forward to returning home, we’re also excited about having another chance to thank our men and women of the Armed Forces for all that they do.

Everywhere we go in Kuwait, we’re thanked for the good we are doing for the morale of our troops. If they only knew how much meeting our troops has done for our morale as Americans.

In 22 years, I’ve been on a lot of wrestling tours, and I’ve never worked with a more professional group than Maria, Ashley and Ron. No one has a special car, no one has a special dressing room, and no one has a special hotel room. We’re all sweating it out together for our troops. Like we say, “No More Prima Donnas, baby.” I hope it catches on.
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Con il fatto lei che non c'è più di sicuro non si arriverà da nessuna parte.

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Quello che dite è vero, ma c'è da mettere in conto che la vittima era una cittadina americana, di solito ci pestano su questi punti.
Poi, come in tutto il mondo, i militari sono sempre difesi a spada tratta.
Il cameratismo fa il resto, tra di loro non si scannano.

Questa storia mi ha ricordato delle foto dell'esercito con gli ostaggi in Medio Oriente.

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Porca troia che storia di merda, non ne sapevo assolutamente nulla nonostante pare sia uscita già tre anni fa.
Il ribrezzo che mi fa Vince e tutta la sua organizzazione di merda l'ho provato davvero raramente, questa vicenda si aggiunge a tutto il resto.

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Scusate se sono monotematico ultimamente, ma mi risulta difficile pensare ad altro in WWE in questo momento.
E mi sento anche un po' ipocrita perché, nel corso degli anni, morti e scandali in WWE non sono mancati.
Tutto questo succede nel 20 anniversario della morte di Owen Hart ed è una notizia che è passata inosservata nel 2016 quando è uscita per la prima volta.

Ho trovato interessante questa lettura:
https://www.thenation.com/article/ashley-massaro-wwe/
Nell'articolo è linkato un articolo che racconta come nell'esercito americano le violenze sessuali sono un problema e non sono mai state così alte dal 2006, anno in cui hanno iniziato a monitorare.
È linkato anche la notizia dal sito della WWE che dava l'annuncio del viaggio delle superstar (sotto spoiler). In particolare suonano come una beffa le parole di Ashley (in giallo)
https://www.wwe.com/inside/news/archive ... urtokuwait
Spoiler:
WWE ships four to Kuwait

While most people don't have Kuwait on their summer ‘To Visit' lists—or any other Middle Eastern countries for that matter—the volatility of the country bordered by Iraq and Saudi Arabia can't keep WWE from sending four of its Superstars overseas to visit and entertain U.S. troops.

"It's our way to show the men and women of the armed forces that we appreciate what they've done," said Gary Davis, Vice President of WWE Corporate Communications. "We've done these handshake tours before. They're a lot of fun and troops appreciate seeing our Superstars and Divas at their base camps."

Making the voyage to Kuwait from WWE will be Hall of Famer "The Mouth of the South" Jimmy Hart and WWE Legend Ron "Faarooq" Simmons. The 2005 Diva Search winner, Ashley, and RAW Diva, Maria will also be on board.

"This is my second USO tour, and my second time visiting the troops," Maria said. "It's going to be crazy and probably scary and tiring, but it'll be worth it very much in the end."

Ashley was involved with a similar trip WWE took to Afghanistan in December 2005, and is looking forward to round two.

"I had such a blast in Afghanistan, and I'm so happy that I'm going to get the chance to experience this again," she said. "You've got to feel for these guys—they're putting their lives on the line for us, and if any of us can do anything to pay them back I think we should."

Both Divas understand that a country within such close proximity to Iraq will contain hazards around every corner, but in spite of the dangers, both women insist the pluses outweigh the minuses.

"Anything can happen going over to the Middle East," said Ashley. "But my company takes care of me, and I trust them. I have full faith that I will come back exactly the way I left, if not a little bit better in the heart."

Appearing in front of soldiers who are too busy fighting the War on Terror to see women—let alone Divas—in clothing other than camouflage fatigues and combat boots breeds quite the elated reception from the troops, but Maria claims the admiration she receives is reciprocal.

"They react to us like we're princesses. It's an amazing experience to go out there," she said. "Everybody is so grateful we're there because we're so grateful that they're there; it's definitely all about them."

Ashley expects a similar reaction, and feels it's crucial for her to do her part to give the soldiers a few hours of reprieve from their perilous profession.

"These guys are lonely. They haven't seen familiar faces or haven't had any visitors outside the service in God knows how long," said Ashley. "I remember the reaction we got when we went over to Afghanistan—it was so strong and it was so...it just really touched my heart."
(la WWE vede quando un suo articolo viene linkato, vero? Ciao WWE)

Quello che ha sollevato il caso, letta la risposta pone ulteriori domande:

Questa in particolare sembra una contraddizione:

Cosa è un "inappropriate pelvic exam"?


Sia ben chiaro che non accuso nessuno, non voglio fare il social justice warrior, che sono tutti innocenti fino a prova contraria etc.

Colgo l'occasione per postare il link della raccolta fondi per la figlia, che per quanto un'"americanata", magari qualcuno vuole contribuire.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/AshleyMassar ... tionalFund

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Survive If I Let You ha scritto: 24/05/2019, 13:11

Ho trovato interessante questa lettura:
https://www.thenation.com/article/ashley-massaro-wwe/
Nell'articolo è linkato un articolo che racconta come nell'esercito americano le violenze sessuali sono un problema e non sono mai state così alte dal 2006, anno in cui hanno iniziato a monitorare.
Da ex riservista dell'esercito, posso garantirti che, purtroppo, le regole d'ingaggio per le truppe americane autorizzano i loro soldati (ma anche altre nazioni, come la Turchia) a fare quello che vogliono, in missioni all'estero. Poi, solo SE esce qualcosa a livello mediatico, si punisce uno per salvare il culo a tanti altri (anche se questa è prerogativa pure dei nostri...)
Fa 'strano' che la Wwe abbia fatto presente delle scuse di Ashley prima che si ritirasse fuori questo stupro... Che tristezza di omini.
Andava aiutata, non abbandonata a sé, soprattutto se, in principio, le han detto alla Razzi di farsi lì caxxi sua.
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